Ep 16 Annalisa Rose, Singer Songwriter

Episode 16: Grief, Healing, and Hope with Annalisa Rose

In Episode 16 of Shutter’s Full Podcast, hosts Alisa and Brittany sit down with singer-songwriter Annalisa Rose for one of the most emotional and honest conversations of the season. This episode dives into grief, faith, healing, and finding purpose again after unimaginable loss.

Annalisa opens up about the sudden passing of her husband and the heartbreaking reality of learning how to navigate life afterward. With vulnerability and courage, she shares the challenge of recalculating life and learning to trust God again after tragedy changes everything in an instant.

She also talks about her deep dedication to songwriting and how music has become both an outlet and a lifeline during this season. Annalisa shares her hopes of creating an EP dedicated to the memory and struggle she has been through with the loss of her husband.

Despite the heaviness of the conversation, Annalisa brings humor, warmth, and perspective that leaves everyone laughing through tears. Her outlook on life has shifted profoundly, reminding listeners that life is meant to be enjoyed, not simply endured. Through her journey, she has discovered what truly matters most: the people you love, the art you create, and the pursuit of joy.

Episode 16 is raw, heartbreaking, inspiring, and hopeful all at once.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:10

Hey y'all, welcome to Shutters Fool Podcast, where we talk with creators, dreamers, and doers who are chasing purpose and building something meaningful.

SPEAKER_02 0:18

It's not about what you do, it's why you do it. And today we have Annalisa Rose with us. Hey ladies. Hi. What's up? Thank you for having me. Yes. We're so excited to have you. I have a feeling this is gonna be a hoot of an episode. Either that or we're gonna cry. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

Well, we could do all of it. I feel like we're gonna it's we're gonna go deep. Yes. About something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:40

As soon as I spent time with you, I was like, yes, podcast guest has to come on. But yeah, all of your intake answers were very deep. So I'm sorry, we took questions.

SPEAKER_01 0:50

I love it. I love it. I sent them yesterday. It's fine. I told her I was like, yeah, I'll get these two because I really want to be thoughtful. Well, you got them an hour ago. Yeah, sorry. All good. Brittany works fast. Yeah. Yeah, sure do.

SPEAKER_00 1:07

Okay. For people who don't know you, describe your personality in three words.

SPEAKER_01 1:12

Oh my gosh. Sarcastic, blunt, sarcastic. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:22

I love it.

SPEAKER_01 1:23

I feel like I'm a little serious and funny at the same time.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Multifaceted. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Morbid, morbid comedy. It's how I'm surviving. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:35

I love it.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

I feel like I we need to spend more time together. I want to hear this. We will. Okay. We'll just get there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:41

Okay. We're going to jump right into it. Okay. So you grew up in a musical family. I did.

SPEAKER_01 1:46

My grandma played piano. My dad sings, plays banjo. I have four brothers. They all played instruments growing up at some point. Some of them still do. So it's just always around, you know. My big brother would be playing guitar and I'd be trying to fall asleep down the hall. And that, you know, I'd be like, what are you doing in there? Playing Pearl Jam at two in the morning.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

At what point did you start singing or playing music?

SPEAKER_01 2:13

My first concert that I got to go to was Leanne Rhymes. Nice. And as a little girl, I was enamored by her. Oh, yeah. And I was obsessed with blue. I was obsessed with her first record. So when I was little, I was always singing that, like obsessively singing it. And we had like a little old little karaoke machine, and that was my thing. But I was like scared to sing in front of anybody. Had to like hide behind a curtain and sing. My dad was always trying to get me to sing in front of people, and they kind of forced me into it. They put me in choir, and that's where I got the resting face. Choir face. The choir face. But I eventually like I was like, you know, this is actually okay. Made a lot of good friends. So it forced me to start singing in front of people, and then I realized that it wasn't so bad.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

And I've seen you do karaoke in a bar.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

Nailed it. That wasn't it. That was a time.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

I want to know what your go-to karaoke song is.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

It depends on the room. I have like two go-tos.

SPEAKER_02 3:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:13

My number one, if it's kind of a older crowd that you know they're gonna be like, wow, this is great. It's Loretta Lynn. Okay. Coal miner's daughter, straight out of the gate. They love it. I love it. Crowd pleaser. Crowd pleaser. But then if it's like a younger vibe or something, like I'll whip out, I'll do very badly some Lady Gaga. Um which Lady Gaga? You and I. Okay. Yeah. Or Miranda Lambert's always a go-to. Safe comfort zone, my girl. Yeah.

unknown 3:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:44

We're tight. We are. Yeah. She doesn't know it, but she will.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

She will. We'll make sure she does. Absolutely. You sing uh outlaw country girl. What's her name?

SPEAKER_01 3:53

El King? No. At karaoke? Yeah. Oh, I was inoculated. I don't remember.

SPEAKER_00 4:01

Well, I wasn't, and I don't remember it. So still memorable. Yeah. Heralds.

SPEAKER_01 4:06

Old Heralds. Whole Heralds. I don't even remember. There's a lot of Shania. Didn't we do some Shania that night? Nope.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Oh, I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Really? Okay. That was the difference.

SPEAKER_00 4:16

Carlisle thing, uh, Baby Got Back.

SPEAKER_01 4:18

Oh, oh, that's a classic. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 4:20

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:20

I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 4:21

Eggs is dairy.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

Eggs is dairy.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

So you said that being a part of a symphony made you feel the presence of the creator. So was there a specific time that stuck with you spiritually that made you feel his presence?

SPEAKER_01 4:35

I mean, I don't know what he's trying to do to me, but I feel like I'm just getting thrown in a rock polisher.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Like currently? J oh yeah. Okay.

unknown 4:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

More than ever. More than ever, the last couple years have been the most difficult I will ever experience. But yeah, growing up, playing in Symphony and starting to play shows and bars and stuff, it was something that I really had to pray about because I wasn't sure what to do with my life at like 19, 20 years old. And I knew Nashville was like this big faraway Disneyland place. And I knew to be successful in music, I had to be there, or I thought I did, you know. So I prayed and prayed and prayed at that time of my life. Well, I was more about like 26 years old at the time. I even went to Spain, walked a pilgrimage to pray about moving to Nashville. So I put a lot of thought into it. Yeah. But I really do think that I was supposed to move here and supposed to, you know, everything that I've asked for has kind of happened to me. Okay. And I feel like that's not something that everybody gets to say, you know. We can unpack that if you want, but I think we should.

SPEAKER_02 5:49

Yeah. Like, let's unpack that.

SPEAKER_01 5:51

Like every job that I've ever prayed about, or I'm not saying that I'm like the most lucky person in the world, but like jobs, who I was dating, who I married, you know, moving across the country and things like that have really the doors just opened. It happened without anything that I did.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

You know, do you feel like they work to your benefit? Absolutely. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 6:12

Yeah. You know, it's never not been easy, but I'm okay.

unknown 6:18

No?

SPEAKER_01 6:19

Like today, I'm okay. Yeah. But the last few years have been awful. I can just, yeah, we can unpack that. I think you know. I don't know if you know. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:28

Tell me.

SPEAKER_00 6:30

I didn't know if you wanted to talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 6:33

No, we can do whatever you want, but I don't think that you should. I think it would be a disservice to our talk today if we didn't talk about it a little bit. For sure. And that's okay.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

Like, say whatever you're comfortable with.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

My husband died.

SPEAKER_02 6:45

Okay. Okay. Dark humor.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

Dark humor. No. Yeah. I don't. We can edit that out probably. That's amazing. We really should. Yeah. No. My husband passed away September 28th of uh 2023.

SPEAKER_02 7:05

Oh my gosh. That's recently. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:08

And so my whole existence has just been blown up. And nothing makes any sense anymore. So, you know, music, every reason I moved here, my whole life, every goal that I had, just all every dream with him is just gone.

SPEAKER_02 7:26

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

So I'm kind of in this very strange valley right now where I I just don't really know what's up or down, but I know that I'm I'm okay.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

And you're gonna be okay. And I guess. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:41

Yeah. I guess. I I don't really have a choice. Right. But I tell people like, to me, yeah, it feels like that just happened, literally, because time is moving in such a weird way for me now. But I'm out of the woods, but I'm in this really long valley, and I'm gonna be here for really long time.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

Is there a destination in this valley? Just surviving, I guess. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_01 8:06

So not just every day is just survival. Yeah. And I'm sure people who've lost their spouse understand this. Like it's excruciating. I don't didn't see this coming from my life.

SPEAKER_02 8:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 8:19

And all of 2024, and even up till recent, is like, God and I didn't talk. It just my faith just left out the window. I don't even know where it went. And it freaked me out. I even asked my therapist, I was like, why does this just gone from me? And she was honestly really helpful, and she was like, You're it will come back. It'll come back quietly and creep into your life again. And she was right, it came back and it came back worse in a good way. You know, I feel like I've really had to discern so much that people should not have to discern. No one should have to know what this is like.

SPEAKER_02 9:02

Well, especially at your age. I don't know how old you are, but you're too young.

SPEAKER_01 9:06

Well, yeah, yeah. But it's it's any age. Yeah. To be real, that's true. It's just any age. And like my parents have been married for 54 years. Wow. And they got married in 72. I can't math right now. 54 years. Um, and that's incredible. Yeah. That's it's a blessing. It's such a blessing, and and I don't even know what that would be like. And I don't know if if one of them lost the other. I they're not prepared for that. Nobody is. So it's been a really, really rough, sh time. Can we cuss on this show?

SPEAKER_02 9:43

I'll bleep it out.

SPEAKER_01 9:44

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:47

I got you, boo. I do it all the time. We just edit out whatever we need to. Say whatever you want in the club. Well, it's been fing bad.

SPEAKER_01 9:54

Uh and you gotta laugh. I've I've really had to laugh, laugh a lot. Yeah, yeah. You have to do it you just and it makes you feel insane. Yeah. But I've been laughing ever since because it it's just what are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_02 10:12

Life is crazy. Yeah, it literally is. I don't know. You have to laugh.

SPEAKER_01 10:16

My husband would want me to be making fun of everything.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

So grief is so it's just weird. Yeah, and everybody handles it so differently. It's a wild ride.

SPEAKER_01 10:29

I'm I'm so annoyed by it constantly. It's so I say it all the time, it does what it wants, and it's so unexpected all the time. I mean, I'm a mess every other day. I never know what's gonna happen. But you're supposed to function.

SPEAKER_03 10:47

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:48

You're supposed to get up out of bed, you're supposed to put a smile on, and you're supposed to do all of these things, and nobody knows.

SPEAKER_02 10:54

You're still supposed to work, you're supposed to you've gotta pay bills, yeah. Gotta live. Yeah. Especially if people are depending on you.

SPEAKER_01 11:00

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, two incomes went down to one. Thanks, babe. Uh I don't know, guys.

SPEAKER_02 11:11

I don't know. I love it. Yeah. But time is the great healer. I guess. Yeah. However long that looks like. I guess. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

Yeah. I don't know. I don't have a choice.

SPEAKER_02 11:21

Well, I'm glad you're choosing to be happy.

SPEAKER_01 11:23

Yeah. Well, that's just it. I was talking to a f a good friend the other day, and he lost his fiance when he was young, and we both kind of came to the conclusion that, like, yeah, we're gonna be we're gonna be sad forever. We're gonna be, it's gonna be excruciating forever, but we don't have to be unhappy forever. They're not quite the same thing.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

No, you know, it can still hurt.

SPEAKER_01 11:49

Like, love is not happiness, yeah. It's just like waterfalls, right?

SPEAKER_00 11:55

But what I appreciate about you is you're such a joy to be around, and you're such a genuine person. You're the only one who thinks that. No, I'm not. My brother, I used to get kind of jealous because he would call you his little sis. Oh, yeah. And I'm like, wait a minute, who is this girl? I know, yeah. Who is she? And then I'm like, I'm like, I love her so much. Well, you're your joy to be around, and you don't you don't let that hurt seep into other people. Like you you care for other people and you're so intentional with your friends, and I can tell that. And it's a beautiful thing, it really is.

SPEAKER_01 12:31

I that's something that has been incredible that God surrounded me with such people here when this happened that I was so consumed, honestly, with gratitude that it was not really that was more encompassing than being like super messed up. Like it it helps so much to be so grateful to so many people at the time. And I've been so lucky with people like your brother and all of these other songwriters in our little tiny world that I got seven of them tattooed on my arm, like I have tattoos now, weird. Uh because of these incredible people, like my seven best girlfriends. I got them all tattooed on my arm because of something that my husband said about birds, and that's a whole nother story. Yeah. But you know, I'll be dead without them.

SPEAKER_02 13:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:29

100%.

SPEAKER_02 13:30

Yeah. You need people.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

Because yeah, I don't know how you survive this.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

Yeah.

unknown 13:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:36

You need an army. So you talked about how asking hard questions brought you closer to God, which it always does, man. What's something you've learned about faith in seasons that didn't make sense?

SPEAKER_01 13:48

It's not something that it's not something that you can get from your parents. It's not something you can get from your teachers or you're growing up. You you know, you do get to a point as an adult where you gotta choose that. You're gonna choose it every day.

SPEAKER_02 14:04

On your own.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Like God always is surrounding us with his perfect love and understanding all the time, but we don't even notice that unless we're looking. Yep. So can you reiterate that?

SPEAKER_00 14:19

Where am I going with this? It's just more about like a personal relationship.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

Yeah, yeah. And and I guess like you're confronting God on those hard things.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

Yeah, and I don't think that I ever ever really did that. A lot of my life was kind of a little scrupulous, maybe. And so I just thought that God was a cop and that I had to earn everything.

SPEAKER_02 14:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:45

And I had to earn his love, and it was transactional, maybe a little bit, a little like legalistic, maybe. Yeah. And I realized that it's nothing like that at all. And um, I wish I had some of that time back. Yeah. But it took going through these awful, devastating things for me to be actually honest. And I'd realized that I didn't know him half as well as I thought I did. Yeah. If that makes sense.

SPEAKER_00 15:09

Completely. Yeah. But it's it's in those valleys in those really tough seasons where you feel his presence the most for sure. Yeah, even when you don't want to. It's like go away.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

Right. It's the adversity we need. Yeah, the refiner's fire.

SPEAKER_01 15:22

Yeah, 100%. And that's the whole polishing thing. Like I've felt there's been times where I literally just feel like I'm getting chiseled at and I've had enough. Yeah. Um, you know, when's it gonna stop? Yeah, please go love someone else, please.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

Yeah, it's a hard love. It's a hard yeah. Okay, I want to talk about Nashville. So many people are moving here to pursue music. It's a wild ride for creatives. What's something that has uh surprised you the most about living here?

SPEAKER_01 15:53

How you do find your group and something that I really, really love because I love I love gathering people. I think that's like a strong suit that I have. And I love the fact that you never really stop making friends. That opportunity is always there, and it's hard to make friends as an adult. Yeah, yeah, it's not easy, and there's such a different age median here that you do find you can find people in your 30s and make friends with them out of nowhere, like like you. Like, you know, it's it never has to stop, kind of. I like that for as cliche as it is, the whole melting pot-ness of Nashville has been cool. So yeah, I have such a good crew around me and like your brother and all those boys, Kyle Whitaker. He is a gem, he's a gem. They're all like big brothers to me, to be real. They're all such good guys. Yeah, I'm lucky. Well, they're like, I need one of them to hang my TV.

SPEAKER_02 16:52

Oh, yeah, and that's why you call them for sure. Yeah, so I just realized we had a mutual friend in common. I had dinner with my friend Melissa for it the other night. Yes, and we just got to talking about how she moved here, and she's like, Oh, yeah, I lived in Leapers for Papana Lisa, and like I'm like, shut up, we're interviewing her.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

We are friends from way back, like we are good buddies. We moved here basically together, and she's tattooed on my arm. Oh, is she she was in my wedding. Where is she? She's a piliated woodpecker. Did she get to choose that? No, they kind of got designated to the to the girls, but it goes with their personalities. I love it. The woodpecker. Yeah, yeah. It's Mel all day. Yeah. But she and I really we've been through a lot together. That's what she said. Some of my my favorite songs I've ever written have been with her. And yeah, we've been friends for a really long time. So she's a hell of a songwriter.

SPEAKER_02 17:51

Oh, she's incredible.

SPEAKER_01 17:52

Hell of a songwriter.

SPEAKER_02 17:53

Oh my gosh. Yeah. And the most humble, beautiful person.

SPEAKER_01 17:57

Oh, she's stunning. Yeah. She's so great.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

Yeah. I love that. I'm like, oh, now we all need to hang out.

SPEAKER_00 18:02

Yeah. No, we do. I want to dive more and talk about your songwriting and the process behind it. Like, where do you draw inspiration from?

SPEAKER_01 18:10

I just think it's different every time. I think it's different if I'm writing with people or writing by myself, um, which I've been trying to, I used to write by myself a lot, and I kind of got away from that when I moved to Nashville. And I'm trying to kind of get back into it because so much so with co-writes, sometimes I don't think that I can be as honest in in weird ways, especially given the fact that what I want to write now because of what's happened in my life, is so difficult to say. Yeah. And I don't even know how to say it to myself. So I've been trying to write by myself a little bit more, talking about that stuff. Not to say I don't love co-writing because I do, especially with the right people. But to get inspiration, I actually get a lot of inspiration from like brand new albums.

SPEAKER_02 19:01

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:01

Something that I've never heard before. It like trips my brain into like, oh, we could do it this way and it'd be better. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Um, or just, you know, your favorite artist puts out a new record and you're like, yes, yeah, I've got life in me again, which is rare. I feel like mute new music is not so good anymore. Who's your favorite artist right now? Ooh, like a newer artist?

SPEAKER_00 19:27

Anybody.

SPEAKER_01 19:29

I love Ashlyn Kraft. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:32

I love Ashlyn Kraft. Okay. She's badass. And I don't think she gets as much attention as she deserves her. Avery Anna is way cooler right now. Yeah. I saw her play at the CMA Awards last summer. Yeah. And that little girl quieted the entire place. It was so, so awesome. Who else we got? Carlisle Griffin's okay. Yeah. She's alright. She's all right. Emma Zink is probably the most badass woman I've ever seen. Yeah. That girl is such a vibe. Yeah. Yeah. Um, Taylor Austin die. All these women. I'm so like. There's some poppy house women. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're I don't know why we're listening to mainstream stuff because these girls got it way more.

SPEAKER_00 20:16

You don't like that new Luke Bryan song?

SPEAKER_01 20:18

Have you been watching my story? I'm really gonna start forever.

SPEAKER_00 20:24

Oh, what is it? Golf, beer, golf. Are you serious? I haven't heard it. We're gonna play this. That's the first word. It's like trees. Climb a tree. Climb tree. It's I mean, it's terrible. And he just spouts out buzzwords the whole time. It's it's horrendous. And I'm thinking about all of these amazing songs that I get to hear that the world hasn't heard. And I'm like, this is the crap that's on the radio.

SPEAKER_01 20:49

I messaged your brother and Brian Lowry literally last night, and I was like, You guys, we have to combat this immediately. Yes. With our hunting song we just got finished. Has he played it for you? No. Okay. Well, you're gonna like it. But it's all about he was talking about this story just growing up, hunting with your dad, duck hunting. And then Colin starts talking about hunting for like two days. Yeah. Yes. Yep. But we wrote a really cool song about it. And I was just sitting there. I'm like, yeah, I'm a girl. I'm from Montana. I like fishing. I don't know what you have to say about hunting. I don't get it.

SPEAKER_00 21:27

It's gotta be better than the Luke Bryan song.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

It is, for sure. Yeah, I'm gonna have to listen to that. This episode is brought to you by Gas Boss, our favorite small town gas station with the biggest heart. Gas Boss is the kind of stop that instantly makes you feel welcome. They've got hot, delicious food and hand-scooped ice cream. And in the warmer months, the kind of outdoor laugh music that brings the whole community together under the stars. You've got to check out their curated backcountry shops full of merch, vape, ammo, ammo, and all those treasures you didn't even know you needed. And one of my favorite things. They're prayer shack, open to anyone who wants a quiet moment. Gasboss is rooted in Christian values and real community spirit. You can feel it the second you walk in. So make the trip out to Bon Aqua, fuel up, and experience Gas Boss for yourself. Shout out to Michael Shepherd of Your Vibes Entertainment in Dixon, Tennessee for supplying our sound equipment. Contact him for all your entertainment and sound needs. He's ready to party. Okay, so you mentioned feeling called to steward the gifts God gave you well. How do you stay encouraged during the waiting seasons of that?

SPEAKER_01 22:35

It's a big job. Yeah. Um, I read a lot. Okay. And I read all kinds of stuff. Um, but I think that is good for my brain just to kind of exit the day-to-day and all of the stuff. Exit your own feelings a little bit. And that reminds me that this is just real life.

SPEAKER_02 22:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:56

Like it's we're just living real lives and floating on a rock. This we're floating on a rock, and this is nothing new, honestly. And I don't know, you read a novel and it takes you away and reminds you that there's other opportunities and there's more. There's more people to love and there's more things to do, and you never have to be done with what you're doing. If you don't like it, go do something else. Which is encouraging because I don't I don't really know what's gonna happen next. I don't want to give up on why I came here. I don't want to give up on writing, even though I'm a little bit tired, I'm a little burnt out, I'm a little scared. But you know, it's I don't want it to be over yet. Not yet. I'll know. God's gonna let me know what I'm supposed to do. He better, please.

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Please. The door's open. You've written some bangers, though. It's gonna happen for you.

SPEAKER_01 23:45

I I hope something. Yeah, yeah. I just I also just want to do cool stuff with my friends. Yeah, that's been the most special thing the entire time I've lived here is that we've all decided this playing with your friends, writing with your friends is what it's about. So, and I don't want that to ever go away, you know. Yeah, I've seen a lot of people, they're getting successful and they never call you back. And I never want that to happen, and I don't I don't want to lose any more people, you know?

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Yeah, yeah. Keep them close.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

Yeah, I have abandonment issues.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

Thanks, babe. Okay, we won't leave you. Yeah, appreciate it. You are now old. Please adopt me. We will adopt you. Okay, so if someone came to Nashville tomorrow wanting to pursue music, what's a piece of advice that you would give them?

SPEAKER_01 24:31

Don't be a germ.

SPEAKER_02 24:33

Definition, please.

SPEAKER_01 24:34

Don't be a slimy little weasel your way around and utilize relationships just to get closer to people with success. Okay. I've seen it, I watch it happen, and it's just all over. It's just kind of icky. Like don't be fake. Um, don't use people, don't use people to climb the ladder that you think you have to climb. Just like be a good person. Yeah. 100%. My very good friend Aaron, he's always he's always said, you can probably censor this, but he's like, Don't be a d.

SPEAKER_02 25:06

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:07

And it's true. Yeah. Like, just don't. It's so easy. And then you make good relationships and good friendships and and good things come out of that.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

I'd yeah, because most people here, especially in country music, are genuine good people. And then yeah, you'll see those little slime balls.

SPEAKER_01 25:22

The brown nosing that I've witnessed is just beyond, and I can't handle it. And that's probably, I mean, good for them that they're good at that. Yeah. I don't want to do that. Yeah. I don't know how. I wish I did. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 25:35

It's gross. It really is. Yeah. And I feel like that's what turns those networking rooms into like hell for yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:43

And it's all like the good old boys' club and all that.

SPEAKER_02 25:48

How can you help me? And I'm like, no, that's not why I'm here.

SPEAKER_01 25:51

No, exactly. I'm with you.

SPEAKER_02 25:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

Great advice. Honestly, it is.

SPEAKER_01 25:56

Just show up. Show up. Be present.

SPEAKER_02 25:59

And love your craft. Work on your craft. And be you.

SPEAKER_01 26:04

Maybe ladies, girls who want to move here, learn more instead of just the up down, up, down strum. That'd be good. I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 26:12

Yeah. We're just gonna gleam in her eye. All right. What's your most chaotic songwriting round or writing experience?

SPEAKER_01 26:23

Ooh. Oh man, that could be so many things. Chaotic songwriter round or something.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

Or just writing room. I know you've had a ton with all the guys you're surrounded by. Well, I feel like you're about to call some people out.

SPEAKER_01 26:37

I don't know. I don't know. It's all chaotic. Yeah. It's all of it. I mean, I've had drunk people fall into my mic stand and knock my teeth. Um I got really mad at that. I made the guy buy me like a top shelf shot. Yeah. Um, I've had we used to, me and Melissa and our good friend Sky, we used to host a 90s brunch, like 90s country brunch um show at Live Oak, and it was the best time of my life. We were raging on Sundays, and we would just sing 90s country, and then we'd have all our friends play. And I think that was one of the first shows I had Collins, like we didn't really know each other, and Collins came out and played. Oh, I remember that. I took a video of him putting like our Montana mess sticker like in the men's bathroom. I was like, put this in there. Anyway, um, I don't know like what the weirdest thing is. I really don't, it's all weird, it's all strange all the time. Yeah, I've seen a lot of strange people. Oh yeah from the the local. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 27:44

Where do you typically play? Usually the local. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

90% of the time it's the local these days because it's easy to just it's local. Yeah. I get take off work and go play. But um, yeah, it's few and far between when I do play these days. I'm trying to change that up. Yeah. So that I'm working less, playing more. It's hard. Yeah. Gotta get to make rent somehow. Yeah. That and I'm trying to book more shows out of town. It's I want to get back to that because that used to be really, really important to me. It gave me a lot of life. Because in Montana, I played almost full time in Montana.

SPEAKER_02 28:17

Oh, wow.

SPEAKER_01 28:18

And playing in little bars, winning over just one person in the room was giving me the life that I wanted, you know.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:26

So and here in Nashville, nobody listens anyway.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

So yeah. Oh man. I feel like tourists are so over it, like they want to hear it, but they don't want to hear it. Right.

SPEAKER_01 28:36

It's very few and far between when you get a listening crowd, and that's so nice, so refreshing.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

You mentioned wanting to eventually release an EP. Yes. So what would the vibe of that project be?

SPEAKER_01 28:48

Grief. Probably very heavy on that. Um, because everything that I've written in my life up until 2023 is not so relevant to me anymore. Yeah. You know, it's very hard for me now to sit at a round and like play the old stuff that I used to love. It's just not, it's not where I'm at. Yeah. That's it's still important and those songs are still great and I love them so much, but I just, it's not the same. And so like my lens of life is so different now. And I have I really do want to start putting out some music that is speaks to where I'm at these days and and these stories and stuff. They're they're not even written yet. I have a lot of great ideas that I'm kind of afraid to delve into because I'm gonna have to really go there. Yeah and and that's okay. I I'm excited about it, honestly. It's gonna be really therapeutic for me.

SPEAKER_02 29:41

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 29:41

To to do that. But so that's kind of my my overall vision is I wanna put out an EP surrounded by really special important songs about my husband, about everything after, you know. And I'm not this is not rocket science. I'm not the first woman this has happened to. Right, you know, and I've really had to realize that.

SPEAKER_02 30:02

But you have a perspective.

SPEAKER_01 30:04

But I do have a perspective, and I think that I I have some things that need said that might help somebody else. So that's really the only thing that kind of drives me there. Is I'm like, surely somebody out there can resonate with a piece of this.

SPEAKER_00 30:19

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 30:19

And it hasn't it's not even done yet. So it hasn't even begun. But I it's what I want to do. So and I'm not gonna my goal is I'm I'm never gonna give up on Nashville until that's done.

SPEAKER_02 30:29

Good.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:30

Please. You know what I mean? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:31

I don't know what life's gonna do, but I do know that I want to, that's like my overall project. So I love that.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

I love a good sad song. Like I listen to sad songs when I'm happy. Yeah. Oh, same.

SPEAKER_01 30:41

It's it's like instant dopamine therapeutic. It really is.

SPEAKER_02 30:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

First thing in the morning, 7 a.m.

SPEAKER_00 30:48

Just get it.

SPEAKER_02 30:49

Give me some Celine Dion. I mean, rip my heart after all. Just Adele right away. Oh yes, Adele. And that was all your questions. Okay. Yeah, fine. Thank you, ladies. We're not done with rapid fire. We're not done with you. Wait, this is rapid fire. So we're gonna jump into Rapid Fire where we just ask you questions and you got a rapid answer. All right. Dream duet partner, dead or alive.

SPEAKER_01 31:11

Patsy Klein.

SPEAKER_02 31:12

Patsy Klein. Oh, that was Patsy Klein. She's the beginning and the end.

SPEAKER_01 31:15

Beginning and end. Okay. Okay. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 31:17

Song you wish you had written.

SPEAKER_01 31:19

Run by George Strait.

SPEAKER_02 31:21

Oh, so good.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

Tony Lane.

SPEAKER_00 31:23

Anthony Smith. Anthony Smith. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, little side note, side story here. The first songwriting round I ever went to, Anthony Smith was playing. And it was at Third and Lindsley. What? And I took a video of it and sent it to my brother. He was in Memphis at the time. Uh-huh. And I sent him the video, and I was like, You're supposed to be here doing this. So I love that song. Oh, that's a good one. I was like, what? That guy wrote a George Strait song? Yeah. What? My mind was blown. That was my first, you know, experience in a writing room. So anyway, good song.

SPEAKER_02 31:57

Oh, it's so good. Favorite movie quote. The claw.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

The clown. Thank you for reminding me. Wow. The clown. I'm so shocked that people actually like, well, you're a mom, so you've probably heard that a million times, toy story. But people know what the claws from. Yes. Um, it's probably from Gandalf in Lord of the Rings when he says Frodo's complaining about the ring, and he was like, I wish none of this had happened to me. And Gandalf says, so does everyone who lives to see these times, but that's not for you to decide. All you have to do is decide what to do with the time that is given to you. Ooh.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

My sister's like, that's like from the Bible, you know?

SPEAKER_01 32:46

Like that is God's voice right there. Yeah. Yes. That's always been like the most beautiful line to me. So yeah. Deep. Nerdy. Love it. Favorite guilty pleasure.

SPEAKER_02 32:59

Taco Bell. Taco Bell gives me the trots.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

The trots. That's not always a good decision, but um, yeah, 100% Taco Bell. Yeah. I've never heard anyone say that before.

SPEAKER_02 33:15

Is that what we call it now? The trots. That's what I call it, especially when I travel. I call it the travel trots. You gotta pack your activated charcoal to keep it at bay.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

If you don't pull that clip and let me post it, that's gonna be definitely mad. Yeah, you got me burping and making terrible.

SPEAKER_02 33:34

I will I will clip it and give it to you immediately.

unknown 33:37

Jeez.

SPEAKER_02 33:38

Maybe we'll someone will learn from my experience. Give me vocabulary. I'm gonna start incorporating that in my vocabulary.

SPEAKER_00 33:45

It's amazing. I got the trots right now. I gotta go home. Anna Lisa, where can people find you online?

SPEAKER_01 33:51

You can find me at Song Smithy on Instagram and uh Anna Lisa Rose music on everything else. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

I love it too.

SPEAKER_00 34:00

It's been so much fun having you on. Thanks, girls.

SPEAKER_02 34:03

Thank you for like bringing light to our date. Oh, I appreciate that. Because to be honest to the audience, we came in kind of feral, so yeah, we did.

SPEAKER_00 34:11

Well, I almost wore my feral hat. But I walked in, she's like laid out on the couch. I'm like, hey, for working in rough shape today. Yeah, but it's someone else.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

No.

SPEAKER_00 34:23

You're the light. I appreciate you girls. We're gonna have you close us out. So you're gonna look into the camera and say, My shutter's full. I'm gonna look right in there. Look into the camera.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

If you've got the trots, don't come over because my shutter's full.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

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SPEAKER_02 34:53

Thank you for coming.

SPEAKER_00 34:55

Bye bye.