Ep 19 Taylor Hughes, Singer/Songwriter

In Episode 19 of Shutter's Full, hosts Brittany Allison and Alisa Thayne welcome singer-songwriter Taylor Hughes for an honest and encouraging conversation about motherhood, music, and trusting God's timing.

A proud Kentucky native with a love for bourbon and a voice that's as soulful as it is unforgettable, Taylor has built her career through heartfelt songwriting, relentless determination, and an authentic connection with her audience. Now, as a new mom to a beautiful baby girl, she's navigating the delicate balance of raising a family while continuing to write, record, and tour as a rising artist.

Taylor shares the joys and challenges of working motherhood, opening up about the sacrifices, self-doubt, and perseverance that come with chasing a dream while embracing a new season of life. Her story is a powerful reminder that becoming a mother doesn't mean letting go of the calling God has placed on your heart—it can be part of the journey He has been preparing all along.

Grounded by her unwavering faith and surrounded by a strong family support system, Taylor continues to pursue her passion with grace, resilience, and purpose. Join us for an inspiring conversation about music, motherhood, faith, and learning to trust God's plan through every chapter of life.

@taylorhughesmusic

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:10

Hey y'all, welcome to Shutter's Fool Podcast, where we talk with creators, streamers, and doers who are chasing purpose and building something meaningful.

SPEAKER_02 0:17

It is not about what you do, it's why you do it. And today we have our beautiful friend Taylor Hughes. Thanks for having me. So excited, amazing singer, songwriter, mama.

SPEAKER_00 0:28

Yeah, all the things I feel like I'm more excited than you all are because like I binge listen to y'all's like episodes. I've heard I've heard like several of them multiple times. Oh my god. And my daughter is like very familiar with y'all's voices as well. Oh my god. So we listen to them on our walks. So when you texted me, I was like, oh my god, I've made it. I've officially made it. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01 0:53

Well, we love you so much, and we are so, so happy to have you on. I appreciate it. We do love you. So for those who don't know you, yeah, how would you introduce yourself?

SPEAKER_00 1:04

Yeah. Um, I'm just a good old Kentucky girl. Um what part of Kentucky? Um Lexington. Okay. Go big blue. Big blue will one day be good at basketball again. I have hope. You know, I'm really excited for football season two. Um but I'm originally from Lexington. Um, I've been in Nashville for almost nine years. Okay. Um, I'm a country artist, but I dabble in a little bit of southern rock and blues. Yeah, you do. And um, I'm a songwriter as well. I write for myself, I write for other artists. Um, I'm a new mom. I'm a daughter, um, obviously a wife, and uh I love a good bourbon. So yeah, I would I would call myself a bourbon enthusiast, you know. Do you have like a shelf? We have a collection of yeah, we have quite a bit. Now it's kind of dwindled down, especially like I know it's been a little bit, but during like COVID, we had a ton, and then we kind of drank it all through. Yeah, drank it away. We went through a lot of them because you know you're like, what else do we do? Yeah. We were either drinking or writing songs. So it's a pretty good combo from what I hear. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you're drinking at home, so it's safe. We're in the wheel, we're fine.

SPEAKER_01 2:17

Alcohol cells escalated during COVID for sure.

SPEAKER_00 2:21

And I really loved how like some places were doing like the to-go drinks. I was like, can we bring that back? Yes. Where's like there's a bar um up in Franklin that's like the authentic way to like be making cocktails and stuff like that? And I'm pretty sure we kept them in business during coaches. Because we would get like we were really good friends with like the all the bartenders and the manager. So we would go get like old fashions every day and like our to-go burger, and they'd put them in like a little mason jar. It was great.

SPEAKER_01 2:51

So there's Taylor getting it. Are you like Taylor's here? Are you an old-fashioned snob? I am. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. Where's your where's your favorite old fashioned from in Nashville?

SPEAKER_00 3:01

I can't say anywhere in Nashville just because like I don't typically drink when I'm down there, which I know is odd. I'm usually playing a show, so I don't drink during my shows. Um, but if we're gonna go get a cocktail, we'll go to downtown Franklin, we'll go to uh OB Joyful, which is the bar I was talking about, um, or Gray's, which is um they used to be owned by the same people. They have a cocktail. Okay. Um, or actually Colicino's, a really good Italian restaurant. They have a really good old-fashioned but I am, I'm a snob. But it's my husband's fault. He's the one who introduced me to like good bourbon. Yes.

SPEAKER_02 3:37

So okay, my friend Courtney Lee Pierce is a bartender and she got a new job. I don't remember where she works. I'll find out and I'll send you there because she makes a mean, like, smoked old-fashioned list. Oh, yes. That's my favorite. How do you know? I don't do it, but from everyone. She used to work at Red Phone Booth, and so everyone's like Courtney's old fashions are like amazing.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

So I love a good, like smoked old fashioned. We have two different smoking kits at our house. Very cool. We don't mess around with the old fashioned. I mean, if you're gonna do your life right, like go all in. Exactly. And I mean there are worse things you could be obsessed with, right? Like drugs, you know? And I don't I don't do that. I don't do that. I just enjoy a good old fashioned. I love that. Just drink responsibly, exactly. And like since becoming a mom, like my tolerance is very low. So like I'm about one drink and I'm good. Yeah, okay. Yeah, there you go. That's all I need. That's how I am.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

I'm like, good. Music has always been in your heart. When did you start singing or know? Oh my gosh, I can sing or have a gift.

SPEAKER_00 4:40

So I've wanted to do this since I was like itty bitty. Um, and we actually have like home videos of me like putting on concerts at the house or like in preschool. They always did like little concerts and stuff, and I would like push my way to the front, tell the kids like shh it's my turn. Which is quite hilarious because growing up I was very shy. Yeah, yeah. I was the quiet one in the family. So, like when I started doing this, everyone was like, What are you talking about? Yeah, what do you mean you sing? Like you don't even talk, you know? So I I'm just very much a people watcher, an observer. Like I'm just the same. I'm just in the background and stuff. So like when I decided that this is what I wanted people to know about, it was very much a shock. Um, which I always thought was strange because like I always loved singing in the car and putting on like shows at home, but I guess it never clicked with my parents until someone was like, Hey, your daughter can sing, and they were like, What? So, oh, okay, and we're gonna take her to Nashville. What? Like, so I actually got my start um at the Nashville Palace. They used to do I love that place so much. I'm glad it's still here.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Oh, I love it. It's a national treasure.

SPEAKER_00 5:57

And they used to do this TV comcast called Nashville Spotlight. Um, and that's where I got my start was on that show. I wasn't playing guitar yet. Um I knew like records. Um, I think I was 18. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So I kind of started a little late into the game just because I was shy. So like I didn't even know this was really something I could do. I thought it was just kind of like, you know, a dream. Like people want to be unicorns when they grow up, you know. Kind of thing. And I was just very like heavily involved in volleyball. So like I thought I was gonna go to college on a scholarship. Um, but then I blew my knee out and I was like, okay, well, maybe we start taking guitar lessons. Okay. Um and my parents were like, oh yeah, you need something to do, right? Um, my guitar teacher actually was someone my dad and his siblings babysat, like way back in the day. So it was kind of like full circle, like meant to happen. Yeah. Um, so I always say that my teacher who I still work with, who he's like family Paul. Um, I'm like, he kind of discovered that I could do this because we were just in a lesson one day and I was kind of singing, and he was like, Oh my god, you sing, and I was like, I kind of do. And he was like, No, no, you sing, yeah. So, and that's you know, kind of how it all got started.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

So you feel like that was a pivotal moment, just kind of having someone speak into your talent and say, Hey, yeah, you have a gift, you can do this.

SPEAKER_00 7:24

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Um, because you know, I I always tried out for choir parts and stuff, and I never got them. It was always like the same four people. I was like, Man, I feel like I can do this. Why am I not getting these parts? Am I crazy?

SPEAKER_01 7:39

Like, yeah, you know, you have such a unique voice. Because it doesn't match your talking voice at all.

SPEAKER_02 7:46

Yeah, it does not. No, like when we heard you perform, or was it uh listening room? Yeah, we went to your show at the listening, and I was like, it's very male.

SPEAKER_01 7:57

Yeah, but it's like it's so cool though, but nobody sounds like you, and I love that because so many female artists here, they all sound the same. And then you get up there and I'm like, I know exactly who that is. Yep, nobody sounds like you, and I love that.

SPEAKER_00 8:09

I think that's kind of my superpower is that I I don't sound like anybody else. Whenever I talk to someone, they're like, I can't pin it. Like, I don't know who you sound like. And I'm like, good, that's the point. That's exactly lean into it. Yeah, my husband tells me all the time, you are not a country artist, Taylor, you are a blues artist. As soon as you accept that, you'll be famous. I'm like, thanks, babe. Do you have any blues songs? Um, I've written some stuff that kind of leans towards you can blend the two. Yeah, I was gonna say you can. Yeah, yeah. Um, especially with my live performances with my band and stuff like that. We'll throw some stuff in there to where you can really see it. Well, I'll be looking out for that. Yeah, I love it so much. Um maybe one day I'll listen to who knows.

SPEAKER_02 8:52

Yes. So when your injury ended your plans to play college volleyball, what emotions did you wrestle with and how did that season impact your faith?

SPEAKER_00 9:01

I was pretty torn up about it just because volleyball was my life for a while, um, for several years. And it was something my dad was really passionate about and something he pushed me into doing. Cause I was like, I don't want to do that. And he was like, You're gonna do it. Yeah. And I have found over the years that when I don't want to do something, my dad's like, you're gonna do this, I end up loving it. Uh-huh. Like riding roller coasters. He was like, You're gonna do this, and you're gonna love it. And I was terrified. And then I love roller coasters now. So it was just one of those things where I was like, this is what I identify as is a volleyball player. I was gonna go to college on a scholarship. And when that happened, I was like, What do I do? Where do I go from here? Because I had also just transferred to a new high school. So like I already didn't know very many people, and the volleyball crew was who I was trying to become friends with, and now like that was over. And I was like, Great, I am stuck in this place where I don't know anybody. And I came from Catholic school and then went to public school, which culture yeah, the culture. I mean, I started in public school and then transferred to private school, but was there for so long that I kind of forgot what public school is about. Yeah, it's hard making friends when you get older. Um, so that was kind of one of those things where I was like, okay, what am I meant to be doing? Where do I go from here? And the fact that like I had always had this like secret passion for music, I feel like God was telling me, like, hey, I know you thought you were gonna do volleyball, but that was just the season, and this is what you're meant to do. This is what I put you on this earth to do. So go ask your parents to do guitar lessons. This is gonna lead to something else. So I that's what I did. And you know, my parents were like, okay, well, Emmy, if that's what you want to do, sure. So I feel like God is always, you know, it's it's it's that thing where you're like, Oh, I have plans, and then God laughs at them. Yeah, yeah. Like, I got something better planned for you. And I truly am so happy that that happened because this is what I've always wanted to do. I just needed something, I guess, pretty serious to kind of be like, hey, stop being scared and go do this. Yeah. You know, I was always very shy and I didn't get out of my comfort zone if I didn't need to. And this was my kind of push into doing that.

SPEAKER_02 11:17

Yeah, that was my first thought when you said that your dad tells you to do things and you're like, no, I don't want to do that. Yeah. Because I'm I'm having these conversations with my kids, and I'm like, is the reason you don't want to do it because you're scared? Yeah. Because if if it's because you're scared, that's never a reason not to do anything. So remove the fear, yeah, go and do it.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

Yes, absolutely. And I feel like if you are scared to do something, that's a good thing. Like it's something you're supposed to be doing.

SPEAKER_02 11:42

And it's usually just because you haven't done it before. Exactly. You're not experienced, and the only reason we get experience is doing it.

SPEAKER_00 11:47

Exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

But we've met your sweet daddy, and what a fan you have in him. He, your family is awesome.

SPEAKER_00 11:54

You have the cutest family. My dad and my mom are besides my husband, are like my number one fan. Biggest fans. You know, I went to college for a few years, and when I decided to leave to pursue music full time, most parents would have been like, No, you're not. But my parents were like, Let's do this. Yeah, you know, we go all in. There is no backup plan, like you go all in. And it has been like that ever since my dad essentially, like every time we get on the phone, sometimes we try to talk, you know, personal stuff, like, hey, how are you? But a lot of it is just business. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, and he's trying to make sure that I've got my head on straight and that I think he believes in my talent so much that he's making sure that I'm on the right path and that I'm pushing myself and I don't slip into that comfort zone where you're like, I guess we're all right. Like, no, you want better, you gotta work for it. Yeah, that's so important to have that accountability. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, my mom is just my little cheerleader.

SPEAKER_02 12:49

Yeah. But I love that they like repost everything.

SPEAKER_00 12:52

Yes, yeah. And then my husband is a huge supporter of me, but he's like, I can't let your head get too big. You know, I gotta keep you humble. Exactly. I can relate to that. But I, you know, we all need that. Yes, we do.

SPEAKER_02 13:07

We for sure do. So looking back now with all that has happened, are there any specific ways that God was walking you through any of those disappointments that you had and changing careers and life paths?

SPEAKER_00 13:18

I feel like I'm very strong in my faith and I've always tried to be that way. I mean, I grew up in Catholic school and went to church all the time. And every time I met or was faced with a challenge, you know, I think God has led me through it, even if I didn't understand it at first. Cause in this business, you're met with a lot of no's.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:39

Or like something's going well, and then it just falls apart, and you're like, why? Why is this not happening? And then you just kind of have to step back and be like, okay, God has something better planned for me. God, can you show me? Yeah. And I get a little like Can you can you make it clear ending? But I have found that every time if a door has shut in my face, or I've gotten to know that in time, God has shown me, like, hey, I had something better planned. Yeah. You know, and just recently, I won't go into detail, but um, I was supposed to be working with a touring company and everything was going really well. And all of a sudden, they just ghosted me. And I was like, I don't understand what's going on. Like, what is happening? And then I I don't know exactly what's going on, but something pretty shady is going on. And I'm like, okay, God was looking out for me. Like protecting you. Yeah, yeah. Good thing I did not, as my husband would say, get into bed with those people. Yeah. Um, so even if at first you don't realize why something's not working, I feel like God will, He's gonna show you. Yeah, yeah. You know, and there have been times where I've had shows that opening slots, I'm like, man, why didn't why didn't that pan out like we thought it was going to? And then I ended up having a better opportunity come up. And so it's just trying to like stay faithful in just knowing that you might have plans, but God's plans are better, kind of thing.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

I always try to review rejection as protection. Yes. Like anytime I have a disappointment, I'm like, there's some sort of protection in it. Either I'm not supposed to be on the road at this time, or you know, like you never know what he's doing behind the scenes to protect you. And so it's like you don't take it personally and just know, okay.

SPEAKER_00 15:21

And okay, you know, that's something that I pray for every night. Um, you know, I'm always like, God, please bring the right people, the right opportunities, and remove the wrong ones. Yeah. Um, and I definitely think he does that. Yeah, he really does.

SPEAKER_02 15:33

I've noticed that too.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

That's so powerful. So I am a little surprised to know that you were shy growing up. I was also painfully shy. And it wasn't until my parents put me in dance and they put me on a stage and they were like, Who is this kid? Like, she lights up on stage and I have seen you. You are just a force on stage. When did you overcome that shyness, or is it something that you like still have to work on?

SPEAKER_00 15:57

Um, I feel like I go through seasons where like, I mean, I'm still pretty reserved when I'm not on stage. When I'm performing, like I'm putting on a show. Like, this is my heart, this is my life, and I'm here to entertain and let fans have a good time and to connect with music. And then when I step off stage, I'm kind of like, you know, just chilling. But you know, just a girl. Yeah, just I'm just me, you know. I guess you have to be like someone that knows me, or I have to feel like really comfortable with you to be super wild and crazy. Yeah, I guess I'm the same way. Yeah, but I'm still reserved. Now, when I moved to town, I knew I couldn't be that way because I didn't know anybody here. And we moved here almost nine years ago, right after we got married. So me and my husband got married, went on our honeymoon, moved here immediately. Neither of us knew anybody here. So I was like, well, this is what I want to do. I can't be that shy person. Like, I have to walk up and down to Montbrian, meet every songwriter, um, everyone that's hosting, and be like, hi, I know you don't know me, but give me a chance. Yeah. So that really forced me to get out of that. I do find myself sometimes if I'm at networking events and stuff, I don't like forcing things. Neither do we hate it. You get a cocktail in me, and then okay, I'll start chatting. But get you an old fashioned. But I am very much, if it doesn't feel natural, I'm just not here for it.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

We literally just have that conversation about how we hate like going to networking events because it's like you're forced to do it. And we just want it to happen in a natural setting. It's like okay, everybody is here to get business or get their name out there, and that just feels icky to me.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Yes, and it's like kissing someone's butt. And I'm like, I'm not here for that.

SPEAKER_02 17:39

No, like just bring the people in my life that I need to help or that they need to help me or whatever. Like, we're all can't this just be easy. I don't want it to feel slimy. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 17:51

And I've over the years, I think this comes with maturity, but just realizing not everyone needs your energy and not everyone is like you don't owe everyone every every part of you. So, like, if I am going to go out and meet people, like I want them to be good, genuine people, people I want to connect with, not because they want something from me or I want something from them. I mean, it's great when you can do that and you all can both benefit from the relationship, but trying to figure out like what is really worth my time and effort. Yeah. Whereas when I first moved here, it was like, go to everything, go to everything, go see everybody.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

But I have found that I have met more people in the industry organically than I have at any networking event or any room that felt slimy to me. Yeah. And it's been crazy to me to just be like, oh, like we want to start a podcast. How do we do that? And then like the next day I'll be at something and somebody will be like, hey, I do this. And I'll be like, oh my gosh, I would I need that. Yeah. That's what I was looking for, you know. And I feel like God's just kind of like, yeah, I'll I'll move this thing around for you and put the people in your life.

SPEAKER_00 18:56

Putting the people that need and want in your life. Like for sure.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

His path, he's gonna put the piece in there that needs to do that. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 19:03

And he will remove the wrong ones. Exactly. Yeah, yes, and he will. There are people that we gotten rid of a few. Hey, I understand, and I've done that a few different times. You know, when I first moved here and was, you know, right with everybody, hang out with everybody, you figure out who your people are. Yeah, that's who you can, you know, share with ups and downs with even realized like now being a mom, God has removed people that I never thought would be removed. Yeah. Because they just didn't support that decision. And that's okay. Ain't nobody got time for that. That's right. That's right.

SPEAKER_01 19:41

You find out who your friends are when you become a new mom. Yes, especially when you are in the trenches, but even especially a working mom. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:50

People frown on that.

SPEAKER_01 19:51

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:51

And you're like, I don't care what you think. Exactly.

unknown 19:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 19:56

I mean, uh, we waited a long time to what I think is long, my husband would say it's a long time. We've been married for almost nine years. Um, you know, for the longest time, especially in the music industry, it is hammered into your head like a child will ruin your career. Don't do it. They don't say that to men, though. Just of course add that. Yeah. They don't say that. So, you know, all this time I was like, it'll ruin my career. I can't do it. I it's not a good time. Let's wait, let's wait. And then you realize there is no good time, there is no perfect moment. Um, and if you wait too long, you're not gonna be able to have the things that you want. Exactly. So I was like, I'm gonna do what I want. I'm gonna have this baby.

SPEAKER_01 20:35

And to kick back on that, women of country actually posted on their Instagram this happened twice at CMA Fest. Lauren Elena brought out her baby girl, and Ray Lynn brought out her baby girl on stage. And they were both on stage with the microphone in their hand doing their thing. And I was like, I got full body chills. Like what I'm talking about to see that. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 20:57

I mean, Laura and Elena, I've been a fan of hers forever. I remember seeing her on American Idol and then watching her do this. Um, I'm just like, see, like you can do this.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

Like, yeah, you can go from stage to bathtime. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

Yeah, you can do it. Yeah, absolutely. So she's a huge inspiration for me when it comes to that. And obviously, Raylan and Maddie and Tay have been doing it too. And I know it's it's hard, it's not easy. Well, of course, but we are capable of anything. Yeah, exactly. You can multitask. Yeah. I mean, when I got pregnant, I had several people not ask me, but ask people in my circle, like, oh, is she not doing music anymore then? And I'm like, why would that be your initial thought? Did like, did my voice just go away? Because I'm like I didn't realize that's how that worked. Exactly. I have a lot of friends from back at home that are not in the music industry, they're in corporate and stuff like that, and they all have multiple children. And I don't think anyone asked them if they weren't gonna work anymore. Right. So I'm like, why do why is that such a thing in the music? Industry.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

Figure out what you want your life to look like and don't let anybody tell you different what you can and can't do. Just live your own life because in the end, it's you. Exactly. And you have to be happy with your life choices. So absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 22:12

And I'm always one for like doing what everyone says not to do. Me too. Unless you tell me I can't do this, I'm gonna do it. I am that person that's like, yeah, if you tell me to do something, I'm not going to do it, even if I had planned on doing it. Exactly. Vice versa and stuff. Don't tempt me. Exactly. We're all cut from the same cloth. I'm sure it's my husband's like favorite characteristic about me, too. So yeah. Oh yeah. But you know, he's also someone that's always been like, he loves music and he's just kind of grown up around it too. And he's like, you just gotta do what feels right for you. Stop asking for permission when it comes to like recording music. He's like, who cares if it's not what's on the radio? Do you like it? Like at the end of the day, do you want to have a baby and have a career? Then, like, do it. If you're not happy with what you're doing, then like what are you doing? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

If God is blessing your journey, nobody else's opinion matters. Exactly. That is final. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:09

And that's really hard for like, I've always been a people pleaser. Yeah. Um, this is yeah, like, and I don't know if it's like a woman thing or whatever, but like so. I hate confrontation. I have always like, I'm always trying to please people, even if it hurts me. Yeah. I've just always put other people first. This is another thing, which is getting older and creating a family. And I have the best husband, but if he doesn't like you, he's not afraid to hurt your family. He is very much a quality over quantity kind of person. And like that may or may not be rubbing off on me. Yeah. Where it's just like, you know, he's very good at reading people, and if something isn't gonna serve him, then like why is he doing it? And he's like, You have to be more like it. You have to be more like it, or you're gonna drive yourself crazy trying to please everybody, and you're not gonna be happy, exactly. Yeah, and he's always trying to like ingrain that in me. And I'm like, what if I don't want to do something you want me to do?

SPEAKER_02 24:07

Like, just so you know, I don't count.

SPEAKER_00 24:09

I don't count, but I will say it's probably rubbed off on me a little bit, but you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

But being a woman in the industry, you need to have a certain level of toughness to be able to say what you want and demand what you need and not take any crap from anybody.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

Yeah, and I know sometimes that's seen as like, oh, she's bossy or she's but you're like, guess what? Also, I'm a boss. Exactly. Like I'm running a business and this is my life. It's business. It is business. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:38

So you gotta be ruthless.

SPEAKER_01 24:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:41

You can be ruthless and be kind.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Yeah, I've learned that I've got to separate like the friendship and and the business, you know, because it's hard. Oh, absolutely. But people can be very difficult. Oh, yes. Boundaries.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

Boundaries is a big one that we are learning.

SPEAKER_00 24:57

Yes, I'm still learning boundaries.

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Especially what? I said especially me. Story of my life. Hey, I understand. I'm right there with you. We're getting there. You're doing a really good job. I'm very proud of you. I'm just gonna stay in my little comfort bubble with you too.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

I love it. I love it. I mean, I've I've got some girlfriends that like they're really good about boundaries and stuff. And I'm like, please teach me. Teach me. Yes. Like my people pleasing side is like just wants to keep coming out. And I'm like, nope, you can't do that.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

Like, you know, I feel like once you get a taste of setting the boundaries and saying the things and feeling how it kind of frees you and liberates you and makes you happier, then you're like, oh my gosh, why didn't I start this sooner? Yes. Yeah. Like, oh, I want to do this again. Like, how far can I push this? How far? Yeah. And it gets a little addictive.

SPEAKER_00 25:47

Yeah, right. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 25:50

Like, I don't care who I offend at this point.

SPEAKER_00 25:52

Exactly. Especially with like people on the internet where I'm like, I don't even know you. Yay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 25:58

I need you to clap back as Karen's. That's my favorite thing.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

And like I've always been like one of those people that I'm like, no, don't say anything. Just like let it be. But like sometimes people just need to be put in their place. Amen. And I am not afraid to do that. Yeah. 100%. That's my favorite. Will like don't come for me. I'm not the person.

SPEAKER_01 26:18

This is not the day. And they're always hiding behind a picture that's not even them. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 26:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

It's like a dog.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

The dog or a clown or you know a flower. Uh-huh. I'm like, you really have nothing better to do with your day than to harass people. For real. One, to get on the internet and just harass people in general. But like weird. You don't even know what me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:41

You don't know my life. Yeah. Mind your business.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

You have no idea what I'm going through or what I deal with. What is this nonsense? It makes me not want to get online and stuff. Oh, yeah. Unfortunately, social media is such a huge part of it now. I'm like, instrumental. Yeah. Why do we do that?

SPEAKER_01 26:56

That's the biggest struggle for a lot of artists, I feel like, because of the role social media is playing in their careers. And it really stinks. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 27:03

Well, when they created TikTok, I was like, why?

SPEAKER_01 27:06

Why? That's another freaking platform.

SPEAKER_00 27:08

Yes. I was like, I don't want to learn this. I still like fight it. I hate it. I deleted it. I've deleted it and got it back and deleted it and got it back. I'm like, I guess like I'll have it, but like I really just don't use it very often.

SPEAKER_02 27:20

Yeah. I just deleted it. I I'm like, I just can't. And I won't. I'm done. Yeah. Like I'll stick with my Instagram. I like my Instagram. Sometimes I check Facebook, but TikTok was just, it was too much evil for me. I couldn't.

SPEAKER_00 27:33

It's just nonsense. I'm like, why? I already feel weird like recording myself doing stuff. Yes. So and that's a literally all that is for is recording yourself. And I'm like, I don't want to do that.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

It sucks. I hate it. We all hate it. But also it's a free billboard. Yeah. It could help your career. It could not. So just use it responsibly. Recognize when you're on there too long. Recognize when it's hurting your self-esteem or you start judging people or whatever. Like notice the emotional changes in it and just use it responsibly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:02

Absolutely. For sure. But I mean, some people have become true overnight successes because of TikTok. And I think that's what so many people hope for. But I'm like, there's something to say about like putting in the time and putting in the grind. So when your time comes, like you are a seasoned professional stage and you're ready for it.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of people that are like overnight sensations from like TikTok, and then they've never played a show in their life. And they throw them on a stage and they just crash and burn. Yes. Or they can't actually sing.

SPEAKER_01 28:29

I'm like, we saw a few of those. Yes, we did.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

It's just one of those things where I'm like, you know, the studio, or um, what is the word I'm looking for? Um mom brain. Yeah. Right.

SPEAKER_02 28:43

What it is. It is a real thing. Um that's why I start making up words because I can't think of the real word I've got.

SPEAKER_00 28:50

When we end this, I'll I'll think of it.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

Y'all know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

Yes, but like, you know, you get in there in the studio and they mess with your voice and stuff, and you're like Oh, they're like auto-tune. Oh my god. I got mom brain. Auto-tune is a hell of a tool because there are people that are famous, and I'm like, I've heard you live. You can't carry a tune in a bucket. What is this nonsense? This is not real. And they've just like signed huge deals, and I'm like, there are so many talented artists out there that like cannot catch a break, and like, this is what we're making famous. I understand.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

But there's so much to be said about the grind for sure. Yeah. And putting in the work. Yeah. Yeah. This episode is brought to you by Gas Boss, our favorite small town gas station with the biggest heart. Gas Boss is the kind of stop that instantly makes you feel welcome. They've got hot, delicious food and hand-scooped ice cream. And in the warmer months, the kind of outdoor laugh music that brings the whole community together under the stars. You've got to check out their curative backcountry shops full of merch, bait, ammo, camo, and all those treasures you didn't even know you needed. And one of my favorite things, their prayer shack, open to anyone who wants a quiet moment. Gas Boss is rooted in Christian values and real community spirit. You can feel it the second you walk in. So make the trip out to Bon Aqua, fuel up, and experience Gas Boss for yourself. Shout out to Michael Shepard of Your Vibes Entertainment in Dixon, Tennessee for supplying our sound equipment. Contact him for all your entertainment and sound needs. He's ready to party. So was there a moment when music shifted from being something you enjoyed to something you genuinely felt called to do?

SPEAKER_00 30:28

This might sound weird, but I always felt like I was called to do this. Ever since I was little, I've just loved music, and we always had music playing in the house, and I always loved singing to it. And what did you guys listen to? Um, well, country music, of course, but my dad always had like Southern Rock and blues playing in the house. But I grew up on Christine Aguilera and like Alicia Keys. And I remember this I don't know why this is something that sticks out in my mind, but my parents bought this little red Miata years and years and years ago. I was probably in elementary school or middle school, and they left a Celine Dion CD in the um CD player, and I heard it and I was like, oh my God, this is what I want to do. I loved Celine Dion and I would sing her music and stuff. And even though I wasn't sure that it was something I could do, I was like, there's something here. Like I don't know what it is, but I love to sing and I would sing for my friends and I'd sing in the shower. And when I would get brave and do it, I would do like a talent show or something like that. So like I've always felt called to do it. I might have just not known the like direction I needed to go. Yeah, where it was coming from. Yeah. But I've always loved it. And you know, now that it's I do this full time, I've been doing this for 12, 13 years now. There are times where it feels like a job. And you know, when you play those shows that are like three hours long, you're like, This is sucking my soul. Yeah. You know, but then you do stuff, you know, play at the listening room where people are actually there to hear you sing, and it really just inspires you again and makes you like remember like this is why you're doing it. Yeah. But I've always I think I've always felt called to do it. It was just whether or not I was in the right direction or in the right place, or like what was it I needed to do to get to where I wanted to be, right? Like I I'm from Kentucky and there's so much talent in Kentucky, but like I knew like if I wanted to do this, like I had to get out.

SPEAKER_02 32:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

It just isn't a huge music scene there. So I always felt called to come to Nashville. I just didn't know when it was gonna be, how I was gonna do it, and then come to find out it was getting married and telling my husband, we're either going or you're not gonna have me. This kind of thing. So I've always loved it and it brings me joy. And I feel like when I'm on stage, that's when I'm I feel authentic and I feel like myself and I feel like I'm doing what I'm supposed to be doing. Yeah, you know, and you know when you are really good at something and like everything else, you're just kind of like mediocre. Right, right. You're like, this has gotta be my calling. Yeah, yeah, this has gotta be it. This has gotta be it. This is why God has given me this gift for some reason because I'm just okay at this, or I'm okay at that, or I feel like that's another reason why I've always kind of felt like this was what I was meant to do. You know, I take vocal lessons twice a week and I write and I play and I do all these things, but I feel like this is just something I'm naturally good at. I don't want to say I don't have to try hard at it because that's not it. It's just I feel like the foundation's there. The foundation is there, and God gave me that foundation for everything. Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

So you said one of the reasons you know this calling is from God is seeing how your songs connect with people. Yeah. So is there a fan interaction or story that deeply impacted you?

SPEAKER_00 33:50

That's a good question. I mean, um, I tour full time, so like I've met so many people over the years in not a song that I wrote, but one that I do a lot as simple man. And the number of times I've met fans after shows that are like, man, let me tell you the story I have with that song and the way you deliver it. Which really it's gonna sound bad. It's really cool when you can make a fan cry because you just brought that emotion back. Well, yeah, you know, and uh so now like we have like this running joke. I have a fan that comes to my shows, and like every time I sing that song, he cries. So I'm like, Where are you? Um it's time to cry. You know, and um, so like that's really cool to like hear people's stories with that. And like just recently, um, I've started writing like more meaningful songs, and um, I have one about my daughter called Cry Baby Cry. Oh, yeah. It's one that I get emotional singing, um, which is weird because like I don't do emotions uh but the number of fans that I have that have children or grandchildren, they're like, oh my god. That resonates. Yes, it resonates with them. Like whether they're in the trenches with me with a newborn or their baby's all grown up, they're like, Oh, I remember getting them ready for prom, or I remember those 2 a.m. wake-up calls where like you couldn't get them to go to sleep, so all you did was rock them for hours and hours. Like, that's really cool to see like people connect with that because I mean, I know I'm not the only one doing this, but like sometimes being a mom can be very lonely. Yeah, oh, it's a super isolating, yeah. Yeah, um, all my girlfriends back at home, they all have multiple children, but like a lot of my girlfriends here don't. So the ones here can't really uh understand what I'm going through because they don't have kids, but the ones back at home aren't in the music industry, so they don't really understand the demands. Yes. So it's it can be very lonely. So like when you can write a song and then talk to someone about it and they're like, Man, I totally understand. Yeah. Or even go further to be like, if you need me, like give me a call or something like that. Like it's really cool.

SPEAKER_02 35:54

And thank you for writing that song because I needed to know that somebody else felt that same thing.

SPEAKER_00 35:59

Exactly. And I think that's such a beautiful thing, is that even if you don't have the same views or same opinions about something like mus music, sorry, music always brings people together in some way. And I think that's a God thing, you know. And I definitely think that like I'm not very good at talking about feelings or expressing myself, so I do it through music. And I feel like that's another thing God gave me the gift of music, so that I could do that.

SPEAKER_02 36:27

Yeah, your way of communication. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

Because if it's just regular talking, I'm like, nope, nope.

unknown 36:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 36:34

Worse. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 36:35

But there's also those songs out there where you just feel like, oh my gosh, like they're talking right to me. Or and it's so it becomes so personal, and just to have that connection, even if you don't know the artist, have that connection with the song.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's huge. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there are a number of songs that are by artists that I I don't know them personally, but I hear it and I'm like, man, I'm living that. I feel like I know you now, yeah. Yeah, or like I did experience that, or I'm in that season of life right now, and it really does help you heal and help you to be seen. Yeah. I love music so much.

SPEAKER_01 37:10

What would you say to someone listening right now who maybe feels called to pursue music but is scared to take the first step?

SPEAKER_00 37:17

Just believe in yourself. It might be scary, but like it's probably a good thing, you know? And if you really want something and you feel like God has put that passion in your heart, it's for a reason. And, you know, I am someone that is trying to I feel like I still deal with that, even doing this for years and years and years. There are times where I'm like, Am I doing the right thing? What am I doing? Like spinning my wheels and trying to figure out if this is the right thing I'm supposed to be doing. But I do believe that God puts uh gives you a talent or gives you a passion and puts that into your heart for a reason. So like just take that leap of faith. Like, this might sound bad, but suck it up. Just do it. Just do it, you know? And then what's the worst that could happen? Like suck it up, better kill the exact way. Just do it, just do it. Sometimes, like, you need that tough love. Yeah, yeah. I know I need that. No, you do. Like, get over yourself and just do it.

SPEAKER_01 38:11

Yeah, and that's you know because you're really just scared of failure and people seeing you fail. That's what you're really scared of.

SPEAKER_00 38:18

That's a big thing. Like, I think you know, Britney's over here calling me out. Um, I there's not a lot that scares me, but failure is something that scares me.

SPEAKER_02 38:27

Yeah, which is so funny because you have to fail at anything you try. You have to fail because that's the only way you learn how to do something.

SPEAKER_00 38:35

Exactly. And like, I'm someone that like, if I'm not good at something, it drives me crazy.

SPEAKER_01 38:40

Yeah, we're the same person. I can't sing like you, but we are the same person. That's so funny. Well, I can't take pictures like you.

SPEAKER_02 38:47

So different mediums, exactly, different mediums, but meet each other. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we were having this conversation earlier during our Sirium A fest craziness. We were like, man, live life audaciously. Like, just do it. Like, you don't know what plans are in store for you or what life experiences are in store for you personally. But the more audaciously you live and kind of delusional that you live, the more fun. I love fun when you just remove the fear.

SPEAKER_00 39:21

Cause like I a lot of the times I'm just like super uptight and like stressed because like I just want things to work out. And my husband's like, You need a chill pill. If you're not enjoying what you're doing, then why are you doing it? Why are you doing it? Yeah, exactly. It's not wasting yeah, it's not worth your time. And like for people who maybe waiting to do something because they're waiting for the right time, you're only given so much time. So like don't waste it.

SPEAKER_02 39:45

Yeah, and you don't know when it's gonna be taken away from you. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 39:48

Yeah, okay. I feel like you've already talked about this a little bit, but how do you balance chasing big dreams and having a baby?

SPEAKER_02 39:59

There's the delusion right there. How would we all do it differently?

SPEAKER_00 40:03

It is all an illusion, right? I I tell people, I'm like, when I find out how to do it, I will let you know. Yes. Because I mean, I am a full-time artist. This is a business, it it literally is an LLC. I take this very seriously, and I am a full-time mom. I don't do daycare because I'm the crazy mom that gets online. I'm like, oh my God, look at all these people. So yeah, sending their children to daycare and it's not safe. Yeah. I do it to family. I don't myself, really. Um but my husband's like, get off Instagram and stop watching all this stuff. You're gonna drive yourself crazy. Yeah. Um, but I feel like it's just, you know, taking one day at a time. Um, I'm trying to be more structured for sure. I feel like being an artist sometimes, like your days are never really the same. Right. So just trying to have some kind of structure where I'm like, okay, this time is when she takes a nap. I can get this done and this done. And during this time when she's awake, we can do these things. And I've also learned that I'm someone that like I love lists and so I like to get things checked off and whatnot.

SPEAKER_01 41:07

Do you have to physically write them down? Yes, I do too.

SPEAKER_00 41:10

I write them down, I put them in my phone. I have 20 different calendars. Yeah. So it just makes you feel good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:16

And you have to physically cross them out at all.

SPEAKER_00 41:19

When it's done, yes, it is, it totally is. But like I've learned through this season that to give myself grace and that like if I don't get the 20 things done on my list that day, it is not the end of the world. That problem will be there tomorrow. Yeah, you know. Um, if I can get like my top three things done and take care of my daughter, and like she's happy and she's fed, and like we're all still alive, like I'm doing something right. Yeah. And you know, there are some days that I'm really good at that, and there are days where like I'm not so good. Yeah. But it's all just, you know, growing and learning, and there is no handbook for being a mom, and there is no handbook for being artists, and there most certainly isn't one for being both.

SPEAKER_01 42:03

Yeah, maybe you'd write that. Maybe.

SPEAKER_00 42:05

Oh my gosh. You know, but it's just one of those things where I feel like grace is a big word for me this year. Yeah. Like something that I really have to work on, and like I'm trying to do is like just stop being so hard on myself. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 42:19

And stop stressing about stuff that doesn't need to be stressed over. Yeah. Nobody's life looks the same. Exactly. So yeah. Yeah. You can't write a handbook. No, your handbook is God. Yeah, right. Exactly. So very often, yeah. Yes, absolutely. But I have found that that really works for me, that top three thing. Cause I have an ongoing list. Yeah. It's and it's personal, it's business, it's like all meshed into one. And I review it every day. And I'm like, what are the top three priorities I need to get done today? Yeah. And if I get them done, great. If I don't, I carry it on to tomorrow.

SPEAKER_00 42:53

And so I have, I don't know if you have this or not. I guess it's like a notes app or reminders app. And there are things on there from like last year. And my husband saw it the other day. He's like, you know, you're supposed to check those things off and do them, right? I was like, don't come for me.

SPEAKER_02 43:09

I got a lot of stuff. I know. Well, what's funny? I'll go back and I'll look through them. And if I don't look at them, I'll be like, oh, I don't need to do anything. But if I look at them, I'm like, oh, I should do that, even though it was a year ago. Exactly. That's how I am.

SPEAKER_00 43:20

I'm like, when did I write that? Why did I need to do that?

SPEAKER_02 43:23

But also I should still do that. Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:25

And I'm like, well, it's been a while. I guess it wasn't that important. Oh man. We pick it on ourselves as well.

SPEAKER_02 43:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:31

I used to be so psycho about cleaning, and I still am to a fault. But like I let dirty dishes pile up and I never thought I would be that person. Yeah. But I have found the more I've done that, my husband will pick up the slack and he's like, Oh, she hasn't done the dishes in a couple of days. I need to take this. Yeah. And so I'm like, and I'll find him. I came home after CMA Fest and he had organized the garage and he had to clean the kitchen. And I'm like, all right. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 43:58

I'll drop the ball more often.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

Yes. He did laundry.

SPEAKER_01 44:02

He folded laundry.

SPEAKER_00 44:04

See, my husband is crazy and I don't touch his laundry because when I do laundry, I do it like a boy. I throw it all in at once and colors and whites. Yes. And they're fine. And like I just hang them up, or I just kind of I mean I fold them sometimes, but they're not like pristine. My husband cannot have wrinkles. He'll run it through the dryer 25 times if he forgets. And I'm like, when are you gonna take this laundry out? And he's like, oh no, there's wrinkles now. I have to run it again.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

Or like if you got some of the wrinkle release.

SPEAKER_00 44:33

And they're like if you hang it on, sometimes I'll take it out and put it on the hanger, and like I think I've done a good job. And he's like, I really appreciate it, but you put it on the hanger wrong. Please don't touch my laundry. And I'm like, okay, crazy.

SPEAKER_02 44:44

I know, right? Also, fine, do not soak it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 44:47

So he does his own laundry and then I do mine. I love it. And I'm like, who who made you this way? I know, right? Like, even like gym clothes. I'm like, they're just gym clothes. Like childhood trauma.

SPEAKER_01 45:00

Yeah. I know. I have a friend that had to iron her sheets.

SPEAKER_02 45:04

What? Yes. Oh no. She ironed her sheets. You're like, nobody is seeing these, and you're just gonna like roll around in them all night anyway. Irons them every day. I need to hear your whole life story.

SPEAKER_01 45:17

I know.

SPEAKER_02 45:17

I'm like, what to you? Yes, yes. Tell me every experience you had because I'm gonna pinpoint this. Somebody messed you up somewhere.

SPEAKER_00 45:26

I'm just like, as long as it gets done, like I don't care. Right. Like now, I will say, like, when it comes to cleaning, I hate cleaning. Once I get started, I can't stop. And that's the problem. And it turns into like a five-hour thing. And then I start organizing this, and I'm like, oh, let's get rid of that. Oh, let's jump on Amazon and buy that. And like it turns into this huge project, and then nothing actually gets done. And I'm like, I've just wasted an entire day. So there's no balance. It's all an illusion.

SPEAKER_01 45:51

1000%. And I feel like we ask every mom that question, and it's kind of all the same. Like, we're like, there is no balance, but I'm always gonna ask it. Because maybe maybe someone has someone has one.

SPEAKER_00 46:03

One day we'll find it.

SPEAKER_02 46:04

Well, but I feel like everybody does offer a helpful tip. Yeah. And kind of like their process. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 46:09

Yes. Um, I don't know if I have bourbon.

SPEAKER_01 46:12

But checklists and routine. Bourbon. Bourbon at night. Bourbon. Why don't you put the kid down? I have a double card question. Oh, yeah. Sorry, I ran out of room. No, it's fine. I think it's adorable. Okay, so you can just memorize that.

SPEAKER_02 46:27

I don't memorize anything.

SPEAKER_00 46:28

Neither do I.

SPEAKER_02 46:29

I barely know my kids' birthdays. It's okay. I know.

SPEAKER_00 46:32

Whole fan moment.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

It's okay. So you recently released a new song that our creative team got to be a part of. Hold on. So much fun. That was so fun. It was awesome. And you're actively touring.

SPEAKER_00 46:45

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 46:46

So tell us about what you're working on right now and how our audience can best support you.

SPEAKER_03 46:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 46:51

So um I did just release a new single that they did the photo shoot for, and it was amazing. Oh my. I definitely backtracking. I definitely feel like that was another God moment. Oh, 100%.

SPEAKER_02 47:02

We were talking about that too. We're like, that was completely god putting it. We were meant to have.

SPEAKER_00 47:06

I don't win things very often. And then like I was also like coming out of, I just had a baby. Everyone's like, Where have you been? She's off the radar. And I was like, man, I really need help. Like, how do you find, you know, a good producer, good photography, all of the things. And then I saw your all's post. I was like, I'll try. Yeah. And then when you announced it, and I was like, Yes. This is meant to be. Like, I got a new song. Like, we got a new promo. I can use this for all kinds of stuff. Like, you know, and babies are expensive. So, like, this was a huge help, you know. And I was so excited. I like ran upstairs and told my husband. He was like, That's great, honey. And I was like, I want. He has no idea what's going on.

SPEAKER_02 47:49

Well, I also like that you got the opportunity to sit in Pauline Joseph's chair because after having a baby, I did not feel pretty for a long time.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

Well, I I remember I texted you and I was like, I am dealing with postpartum hair loss. You're not gonna take pictures at the top of my head, are you? Yeah, yeah. Like, I was very like kind of, I was like, man, I'm really excited, but also like I feel like a troll. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 48:13

Girl, I felt like a troll for five years. My son is five, and I'm just now like, I look okay again.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

My baby's 11 and I'm just now feeling good.

SPEAKER_01 48:23

Well, it's just like, well, it definitely like takes a long time to feel like yourself.

SPEAKER_00 48:27

You also like you're so busy like taking care of the child that like when you go out, you're like, I don't care what I look on.

SPEAKER_02 48:33

Yeah, and like I will wear sweatpants legitimately and then.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

Sorry, I got totally off track with that question.

SPEAKER_01 48:41

Um But Pauline Joseph.

SPEAKER_00 48:44

Yes, Pauline. She was great. She was kind of like a therapy session too. And her husband was hilarious, loved him too. Um I was having a particularly like rough day, like that entire day. And like you all just like made it so much better. And we'll give Collins a shout out too. You know, he did amazing, he's hilarious, love him. But it was really cool to work with you guys in definitely like just a God moment because not only did I get like content and stuff out of it, but it introduced me to you all, and like I listen to y'all's podcasts all the time, and that brings me joy. And I'm like, Oh, I'm gonna listen to my podcast today on my walk, and like I really enjoy it. And you all are just so funny, and I'm like, I love these people, like I need to know these people, you know.

SPEAKER_02 49:27

I know I felt like we had this opportunity on a personal level to gain a new friend. Yeah, it's amazing.

SPEAKER_01 49:32

Yeah, we're all in an inner inner circle now, and it's so great. Yes, all right.

SPEAKER_00 49:37

Yes, circle of trust. Trying to find balance and you know, be wild and crazy. But wait, what was the question? How can you all support my support? Sorry, we're gonna get back there. Yeah, yeah. Um, so stream my new song. Um, it's called Something in That Saddle. Um we are getting ready to go back into the studio to work on new music. Like she said, I am a full-time artist and I tour all over the place. Um, we're gonna go to Texas later this year. It hasn't been officially announced yet, but we are going on another tour. Um, I'm making my Bluebird Cafe debut this week. Which I'm really excited about. I tour all over the place. So, like, come see live shows. Um, come meet me, come see a show, check out my music. I'm literally on every streaming download platform. Um, buying merch is a huge help. Yeah. Yes. Um, because this is what I do for a living. So I make my money and pay my bills through merch sales and playing live shows. But also, like, this is free. Giving me a follow, giving me a like, yeah, subscribing to my website, like those do not cost you a dime, and they're super helpful, not just for me, but like independent artists in general. Like when you're touring and going to new places that don't know you, they want to see big numbers, you know. Um, and it's free. Yeah, it's free, it's literally free. So please, you know, interact with posts, like even if it's just like a light, that's so helpful. Yeah, um make sure you drop your handles too. Yes, it is Taylor Hughes Music on Instagram, Facebook, um, TaylorHughesmusic.com. I am on the TikTok. Um, I believe it's Taylor Hughes Official because Taylor Hughes music was already taken. Um, I am on the Twitter or the X, whatever you want to call it. Um, I've noticed that I have a lot of fans from like the UK on Twitter. So that's why I've kept that. Um because I think Twitter is like a big thing over there.

SPEAKER_02 51:31

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 51:32

Um you'd have to ask my husband that he loves Twitter.

SPEAKER_02 51:34

Well, it sounds like an international tours in order.

SPEAKER_00 51:37

Yeah. I was just about to say that. Yeah. I've been wanting to, you know, it was kind of in the works. Um, and then I got pregnant. Um, so I was like, okay, we're gonna have to push this off. Um, but I do have a ton of fans over there, and I actually just won an award for um not the song I just put out, but my song Old Fashion You won Best Country Song of the Year over there on their independent radio stations. Amazing. Um, which is really cool because I had no idea that I was like nominated or anything. And then I got an email from them. They were like, hey, we'd love to let you know that like not only have you been nominated, but you won, which is really cool. You know, and um I would love to go to the UK. I've never been out of the country except for like Mexico or like on a cruise. Oh, yeah. You know, so like the Bahamas and stuff like that. Yeah. Um so if anyone wants to support me and take me over there, in a lineup at a festival. Like, you know, um we're always looking for endorsements, uh investor, sponsor travel. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but really, you know, just getting on the socials, um, streaming the music, that's always such a huge help. We have rapid fire for you. This is what I'm worried about. Like what are the questions? I know, but I'm like, oh no, how do I prepare for this?

SPEAKER_01 52:53

Yeah. I'm like, yeah, I could still prepare and then be like, uh Yeah. And then I'm not good with rapid fire. Take your time. And then later I'll be like, why did I say that? Yes, everybody does favorite. Yeah. Everybody does that. They're like, I don't know why I said that. I should have said this.

SPEAKER_00 53:10

All right, favorite movie quote. I feel like it's probably something from Bridesmaids. I really love where she's like, I'm ready to pay. I don't know why that's my favorite thing, but we're all gonna go down to the river. Yeah, UK. Yes, it's it's really bad because like I could sit there and like quote that entire movie. My husband's like, this is unhealthy. Yes, it's the big thing. It's just funny. I really enjoy it. I could watch it a billion times. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Song you wish you had written. Ooh, there's a lot. Um, Tin Man by Miranda Lambert. Oh, I love that song. That is my favorite song of all time.

SPEAKER_01 53:54

Yeah, that one still teaches me. Oh, God. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 53:57

It's such a beautiful song.

SPEAKER_01 53:58

Yes, I love it. Dream duet partner, dead or alive.

SPEAKER_00 54:03

There's a few. Obviously, Miranda Lambert, if you know me. I have a slight obsession with her. Her birthday may be saved on my phone because I'm hoping that one day we'll be best friends. Um I've spent a few of my wedding anniversaries at her concerts because my husband knows how much I love her. So, like, he'll always buy me tickets. Sometimes he'll go, and sometimes he's like, Why don't you just go do that? Yeah, do your girls' thing. Yeah, yeah. Um, Randall Lambert, um, Chris Stapleton.

SPEAKER_01 54:31

Wow, y'all's voices together.

SPEAKER_00 54:33

And we're both from Kentucky.

SPEAKER_01 54:35

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 54:36

I can so hear that. I got to meet him when he released his first album. Um, because he grew up like just down the street from where I'm from, and he is so nice. Really? He's also really quiet. Oh, I can see that. He's like the gentle giant, yeah, but very nice, very humble. Um, but someone that's like up and coming, who I think is like totally underrated, would be Cameron Marlowe. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 54:59

Oh, yeah, yeah. He's freaking good. He's really good.

SPEAKER_00 55:03

He's so good. I'm trying to get my husband onto him. He's like, Who is this? This better not be bro country. I'm like, it's no, it is not. It trusts me. Trust me. Yeah. So one of them.

SPEAKER_01 55:14

All right. Last one. Guilty pleasure.

SPEAKER_00 55:19

Oh, um, Netflix shows like Married at First Sight or Um I did not see that coming. Love is Blind or The Perfect Match.

SPEAKER_01 55:31

Literally, we're the same person.

SPEAKER_02 55:33

TV show person. You guys are the same. We are you guys are the same.

SPEAKER_01 55:38

Brad.

SPEAKER_00 55:39

I love it. I love it. It's Drew's like, what are you watching? It's rotting your brain. And I'm like, I love it. Oh, I can't judge for it. Oh, I love it.

SPEAKER_02 55:48

I can't watch those shows. Like, I can't.

SPEAKER_00 55:50

It makes me feel better about myself. I'm like, look, babe, we're not as messed up as we think. Look at these people who thought marriage was gonna be a cakewalk.

SPEAKER_01 55:58

And you don't have to think about it. Like you can just mindlessly, like it can just be on, and I can still be like working because I'm never, I'm always multitasking. Same. Yeah. And I don't have to. You can't watch anything new. I can't watch the shows where I have to like keep up with what's going on. So I'm like just mindless. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 56:13

I'll watch it like if I'm on the treadmill or um if I'm like on my phone, like trying to post social media stuff or like building my newsletter.

unknown 56:23

I love it.

SPEAKER_01 56:24

I do.

SPEAKER_00 56:24

I love it.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

Taylor Hughes, thank you so much for joining us.

SPEAKER_00 56:27

Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_01 56:28

We are so happy to have you as a friend and have you on the podcast. And we hope that everybody checks out your music because you are so deserving. Thank you.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

And to all of my fans that are never going to be watching this, make sure you all check out their podcast. Like it really is. It's so entertaining. And a lot of the guests, really all of them, have something like really unique to bring to the table and like always have like a really good message. I agree. I know I probably didn't have any good like messages today. Um just all nonsense, but it's really entertaining.

SPEAKER_02 57:00

Thank you so much for coming. Oh, we're gonna have you close us out. All right, let's see. Which means we're gonna have you look into that camera and say, My shutter's full. My shutter's full. It's always my favorite part.

SPEAKER_01 57:13

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